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The Tyco Mistrial. What went wrong -- and, who benefits.The story and analysis coming up. |
| Preshow #2 Free Return to index of stories... |
Plus, When all eyes were on the Presidential primary, another vote was taken choosing New Hampshire as the first in the nation. free state. We'll explain. |
| Preshow #3 Drugs Return to index of stories... |
And later, Governor Craig Benson unveils the state's newest website. It provides a direct link to prescription drugs from Canada. |
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Hello. I'm Beth Carroll. Welcome to New Hampshire Outlook. |
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When The TYCO trial ended in a mistrial on Friday -- the courtroom was stunned. Jurors said they were minutes away from reaching a verdict. They had just survived a week in which the trial had descended into a 3-ring circus. But, a threatening letter to Juror #4 made it impossible for the judge not to react. In the aftermath of the mistrial, jurors are speaking-out, lawyers are weighing-in and the press is under fire. |
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THEY HAD JUST SURVIVED A WEEK IN WHICH THE TRIAL HAD DESCENDED INTO A THREE RING CIRCUS. BUT A THREATENING LETTER TO JUROR NUMBER FOUR MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE JUDGE NOT TO REACT. IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE MISTRIAL, JURORS ARE SPEAKING OUT, LAWYERS ARE WEIGHING IN, AND THE PRESS IS UNDER FIRE. DENNIS KOZLOWSKI AND MARK SWARTZ APPEAR TO HAVE DODGED A CONVICTION. JURORS TOLD CNN FRIDAY THEY WERE CLOSE TO FINDING BOTH DEFENDANTS GUILTY OF GRAND LARCENY WHICH CARRIES A MAXIMUM PRISON TERM OF 25 YEARS. I PERSONALLY FEEL THE EVIDENCE IS VERY CLEAR ON SOME OF THOSE SPECIFIC CHARGES AND THAT WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DELIVER THE VERDICT THAT I BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN. IT'S VERY UPSETTING TO ME. WE'RE VERY, VERY CLOSE EXCEPT FOR ON ONE POINT, AND THAT ONE POINT WAS PRETTY MUCH RESOLVED THIS MORNING. Reporter: THE JUDGE ANNOUNCED TO A STUNNED COURTROOM HE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO GRANT A MISTRIAL BECAUSE OF EFFORTS TO PRESSURE THE JURY. A PERSON WHO OBSERVED CLOSED DOOR PROCEEDINGS IN THE JUDGE'S CHAMBERS TOLD CNN A COERCIVE LETTER HAD BEEN SENT TO JUROR 4 THE APPARENT HOLDOUT. THE JUDGE QUESTIONED THE JUROR AND BASED ON HER ANSWERS HE NRARED A MISTRIAL. THIS NEW YORK POST AND WALL STREET JOURNAL REVEALED JUROR 4'S IDENTITY AFTER SHE APPEARED TO SIGNAL THE DEFENSE WITH AN OKAY SIGN. KOZLOWSKI AND SWARTZ WERE CHARGED WITH STEALING $600 MILLION FROM TYCO FOR UNAPPROVED BONUS, FORGIVEN LOANS AND STOCK SALES. THE MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY SAID THE MISTRIAL WAS UNFORTUNATE AND SAID HE INTENDS AT THE EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY TO SEEK A RETRIAL. DEFENSE ATTORNEYS SAY THEY'LL BE READY. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 40 YEARS. IF I PILED UP ALL THE EXPERIENCES TOP TO BOTTOM, I AIN'T SEEN NOTHING LIKE THIS YET. Reporter: THE JUDGE HAS SCHEDULED A HEARING FOR MAY 7 TO DISCUSS A NEW TRIAL. |
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JOINING US TO DISCUSS THE LEGAL, BUSINESS AND ETHICAL ISSUES RAISED IN THE CASE ARE BUZZ SHEER A LAW PROFESSOR AND JOHN FREEAR PROFESSOR OF ACCOUNTING AND FINANCING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE'S WHITTEMORE SCHOOL OF BUSINESS AND ECONOMICS. PROFESSOR, MUCH HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE MEDIA IN THIS CASE. THE JUDGE PLACED SOME OF THE BLAME FOR THE MISTRIAL ON THE MEDIA SAYING THAT THEY HAD IN IDENTIFYING THIS WOMAN BASICALLY HAD TO PUT OUTSIDE PRESSURE ON THIS WOMAN. WAS THE JUDGE RIGHT IN DECLARING A MISTRIAL? IT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE THAT HE WAS RIGHT. FROM THE MEDIA ACCOUNTS IT APPEARS THAT THE WOMAN FELT THAT SHE WAS BEING PRESSURED BY OR THREATENED BY ONE PARTICULAR LETTER SHE RECEIVED. IT AFFECTED HER ABILITY TO DELIVER A FAIRLY. TO DELIBERATE FAIRLY AND IMPARTIALLY AS A JUROR. YOU DON'T WANT EVEN ONE JUROR LIKE THAT. IT WAS A GOOD DECISION GIVEN THAT ON THE JUDGE'S PART. Reporter: PROFESSOR FREEAR, WAS THE MEDIA AT FAULT AS THE JUDGE CITED. I THINK SO. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE JURY WAS PUT UNDER SOME SOME PRESSURE THAT THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN UNTIL AFTER THE TRIAL WHEN THEY ALL APPEARED ON TELEVISION AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER. YES I WOULD AGREE. Reporter: WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE MISTRIAL WAS A TRIUMPH FOR DENNIS KOZLOWSKI AND MARK SWARTZ. WHY? I DON'T THINK IT WAS PERSONALLY. I THINK, I MEAN, THERE SEEMS TO BE TWO SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT ON THIS. ONE WAS. THE DEFENSE NOW KNOWS WHAT THE PROSECUTION HAS. ON THE OTHER HAND THE PROSECUTION ARGUABLY USED A SORT OF PITCH FORK TO THROW EVERYTHING AT IT RATHER THAN A SURGICAL STRIKE AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO CLEAN THEIR ACT UP AND MAKE IT TIGHTER AND MORE FOCUSED AND THEREFORE MAYBE A BETTER PROSECUTION. Reporter: PROFESSOR SCHEER WHO BENEFITS FROM A MISTRIAL. BOTH SIDES BENEFITED IN THE SENSE THAT BOTH SIDES GOT TO SEE WHAT THE OTHER SIDE HAD. BOTH SIDES GOT TO GET A FEELING PARTICULARLY FROM THE COMMENTS OF JURORS AND THE MEDIA WHAT WORKED AND WHAT DIDN'T WORK. THE GENERAL WISDOM IS ALWAYS EVERY DAY A CRIMINAL DEFENDANT GOES WITHOUT BEING CONVICTED IS A GOOD DAY. BUT BEYOND THAT KIND OF TRITE SAYING I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN REALLY SAY ANY ONE PARTICULARLY BENEFITED. Reporter: OF COURSE, THE CASE IS GOING TO BE RETRIED AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT PROSECUTORS ARE SAYING AT ENORMOUS EXPENSE TO THE TAXPAYER I MIGHT ADD. IS IT DIFFICULT IN TRYING THESE CASES A SECOND TIME AND DOES THAT PUT A TREMENDOUS DISADVANTAGE ON THE DEFENSE, I MEAN, ON THE PROSECUTORS IN THAT THE DEFENSE IS NOW KNOWN? WELL, GIVEN THE DISCOVERY RULES IN MOST JURISDICTIONS, DEFENSE HAD A PRETTY GOOD IDEA WHAT WAS COMING FROM THE PROSECUTION IN TERMS OF THE SUBSTANCE NOT QUITE HOW THEY WOULD DO IT OR HOW THE WITNESSES WOULD PLAY WITH THE JURORS BUT THEY HAD A GOOD SENSE OF THE SUBSTANCE. IT'S GOING. IT'S VERY HARD FOR THE LAWYERS ON EITHER SIDE TO TRY THIS CASE THE, THE SAME CASE AGAIN. THEY'LL EACH HAVE TO PRETEND THAT THEY'RE TRYING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME. IF THEY TAKE ANY SHORTCUTS BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE IT ONCE, IT WILL BE A MISTAKE. Reporter: PROFESSOR FREEAR, DOES THIS THEN POSSIBLY RAISE THE SPECTER OF AN OUT-OF-COURT AGREEMENT THAT MIGHT BE REACHED. YES. I THINK THEN THAT'S A BETTER CALCULATION BECAUSE PROBABLY THEY'LL GO TO JAIL IF THEY'RE FOUND GUILTY IN THE TRIAL THEN THEY MIGHT GET LONGER THAN IF THEY MAKE A PLEA BARGAIN AND SUCK IT UP, AS IT WERE. I ALSO THINK THERE'S THE COMPLICATION OF I THINK THERE ARE PENDING AND POTENTIAL CIVIL CASES. IT REALLY ONLY MAKES SENSE FOR EITHER KOZLOWSKI OR SWARTZ TO ENGAGE IN A PLEA BARGAIN IF THEY CAN WRAP UP NOT ONLY THEIR CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITIES BUT THEIR CIVIL OBLIGATIONS, HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'RE GOING TO OWE. THIS IS ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE EVEN WILLING TO DO IT. IF THEY CAN WRAP IT ALL IN ONE PACKAGE. OTHERWISE I'M NOT SURE IT REALLY MAKES THAT MUCH SENSE. I THINK THAT TYCO HAS. THE COMPANY HAS OUTSTANDING ABOUT $10 BILLION SUITS AGAINST IT. THEY WILL BE LOOKING TO KOZLOWSKI AND SWARTZ FOR THAT MONEY. Reporter: OF COURSE THE COMPANY SAYS IT IS MOVING FORWARD ON THAT FRONT. WE ALL SAW THE EXCESS THROUGHOUT THE TRIAL BUT APPARENTLY THAT WAS MEMORABLE TO US BUT NOT WHAT THE JURY FOCUSED ON IN ITS DELIBERATIONS. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. Reporter: THE $2 MILLION PARTY ON THE ITALIAN ISLAND OF SAR DIN I CAN'T. THE $6,000 SHOWER CURTAIN. THOSE IMAGES BECAME SYMBOLS OF THE TYCO TRIAL PLAYED OVER AND OVER IN THE MEDIA BUT THE JURY NEVER CONSIDERED THE ALLEGATIONS OF CONSPICUOUS CONSUMPTION IN ITS 12 DAYS OF DELIBERATIONS. THAT WAS REVEALED AFTER THE JUDGE DECLARED A MISTRIAL. IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS THESE WERE LITTLE LITTLE TINY PARTS OF THIS CASE. Reporter: JUROR GREG SUTTON SAYS HE AND HIS PEERS WAFERNTED TO KNOW IF INSTEAD KOZLOWSKI AND MARK SWARTZ USED TYCO AS THEIR PERSONAL PIGY BANK, HOW MUCH THEY SPENT SUTTON SAYS WAS IRRELEVANT. THIS IS THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. MORE POWER TO YOU. IF YOU MAKE $100 MILLION A YEAR AND IT'S JUSTIFIED CONGRATULATIONS. I'D LIKE TO BE IN YOUR SHOES. Reporter: PROFESSOR, WILL THE SECOND TRIAL FOCUS LESS ON THE LAVISH LIFESTYLE SINCE APPARENTLY IT WAS NOT GETTING THE ATTENTION OF JURORS? I THINK ACTUALLY IT GOT THE ATTENTION OF JURORS IN THE WRONG WAY. I'VE READ SOME QUOTES AND SEEN SOME QUOTES FROM JURORS WHERE THEY WERE A LITTLE FOR TREATING THEM SO SIMPLISTICALLY IN WHETHER THAT COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN WHETHER THEY FOUND KOZLOWSKI AND SWARTZ GUILTY. I DON'T THINK WE'LL SEE MUCH OF THAT THE SECOND TIME AROUND. Reporter: IS THIS THE CASE OF PROSECUTORS PRESENTING TOO MUCH EVIDENCE WITHOUT GIVING JURORS ENOUGH OF AN EXPLANATION AS TO THE CRIMES THEY WERE CHARGING THESE TWO GENTLEMEN WITH. I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY AN ISSUE. JUROR NUMBER FOUR WAS OBVIOUSLY VERY CONCERNED IT SEEMS ABOUT THE QUESTION OF CRIMINAL INTENT. I THINK THAT IS CORRECT, ISN'T IT? AND NOT SURE THE PROSECUTION DID A GOOD ENOUGH JOB IN PINNING THAT DOWN. THE HARDEST THING TO DO AS A TRIAL LAWYER, CRIMINAL LAWYER, CIVIL LAWYER, IS TO MAKE A DECISION TO LEAVE SOMETHING OUT OF YOUR CASE. AND IF YOU JUST INCLUDE EVERYTHING BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE COURAGE TO LEAVE THINGS OUT, YOU LOSE FOCUS, YOU DON'T HAVE A CLEAR MESSAGE. THAT, MANY SAY, WAS THE MISTAKE THAT THE PROSECUTION MADE IN THE OJ SIMPSON CASE. IT MIGHT BE A GOOD LESSON FOR THE PROSECUTORS HERE ALTHOUGH IT DID SEEM LIKE IT WAS GOING THEIR WAY BEFORE THE DELIBERATIONS ENDED. Reporter: BUT GIVEN THE LENGTH OF THE TRIAL IT SEEMS TO SUGGEST THAT THEY WERE THROWN A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION UPON THE JUROR. ONE MIGHT THINK THERE'S A SHORTER WAY OF DOING IT. Reporter: TYCO CASE, IF NOTHING ELSE, WAS ENTERTAINING. WE'RE NOW HEARING THAT NBC'S LAW AND ORDER SHOW WANTS TO USE THE CASE FOR ONE OF THEIR UPCOMING SHOWS. LET'S TALK ABOUT ETHICS. WHAT IMPACT WILL THE TYCO RULING HAVE ON THE GOVERNMENT'S BATTLE AGAINST CORPORATE CRIME, PROFESSOR? I THINK IT WILL IN THE SHORT TERM MISTRIAL. IT'S GOING TO BE MORE COSTLY, IT'S GOING TO DELAY THINGS. THAT'S NOT SO GOOD. THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER TRIALS GOING ON OR ABOUT TO HAPPEN. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE IN THE LONG RUN, THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN DELAYED A LITTLE BIT BY A MISTRIAL. Reporter: THIS WAS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD CASE, WASN'T IT? THIS WAS NOT ABOUT ACCOUNTING RULES THAT A LOT OF THE JURORS MAY NOT HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU WILL PROBABLY GET IN WORLDCOM AND ENRON CASES. COMPARED TO THOSE CASES IT MAY BE MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD BUT THEY HAD TO TAKE SIX MONTHS TO ESTABLISH WHETHER HE HAD AUTHORITY TO SPEND THE MONEY HE WAS SPENDING OR NOT. SUGGESTS THAT THERE WAS A GOOD BIT OF COMPLICATION THERE. I THINK THAT'S TRUE. I THINK THAT IN SOME WAYS THE OTHER CASES ARE MORE COMPLEX THAN THIS ONE. THIS IS A RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD CASE IN SOME SENSES BUT NOT. NONE OF THESE THINGS ARE STRAIGHTFORWARD. THEY'RE ALWAYS COMPLICATED. IN WORLDCOM IT WAS A VERY SIMPLE ACCOUNTING ISSUE. THE "NEW YORK TIMES" IN A LEADER THE OTHER DAY DESCRIBED THE KOZLOWSKI CASE AS A PRIMER IN CANCEROUS GREED, SHODDY ACCOUNTING AND POOR GOVERNANCE WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A OR AN OVERSIMPLISTIC WAY OF PUTTING IT. Reporter: LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE MORE HIGH PROFILE CASES. MARTHA STEWART WHO WAS CONVICTED. HOW DID THAT ONE DIFFER FROM THIS ONE IN ITS COMPLEXITY? I THINK THE STEWART CASE WAS SIMPLER. IT JUST INVOLVED ONE RELATIVELY SPEAKING ONE INCIDENT. SEVERAL EVENTS BUT ONE PARTICULAR INCIDENT THAT THE PRIMARY CHARGE I THINK WAS THE LYING CHARGE. THAT ACTUALLY SIMPLIFIED IT. IT WASN'T CHARGED AS AN INSIDER TRADING CASE WHICH CAN BE MORE COMPLICATED. SO I THINK IT WAS A SIMPLER CASE. DID SHE LIE? DIDN'T SHE LIE? THE KINDS OF WITNESSES THEY HEARD FROM WERE NOT EXPERTS, WERE THE KIND OF WITNESSS THAT JURORS CAN FIGURE OUT WHETHER TO BELIEVE THEM OR NOT. HER SECRETARY AND ASSISTANT, SOMEONE WORKING FOR THE BROKERAGE FIRM. THEY WERE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, NON-EXPERT WITNESSES SO I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF BENEFIT AT LEAST FROM A JUROR'S PERSPECTIVE TO THAT KIND OF CASE. Reporter: PROFESSOR, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE TYCO NAME? WE KNOW THAT THEY CLEANED HOUSE. THEY BROUGHT IN NEW MANAGEMENT. THEY MOVED THEIR HEADQUARTERS FROM EXETER TO NEW JERSEY. THEY ARE TRYING TO DISTANCE THEMSELVES TREMENDOUSLY BUT FROM A BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW, HOW DOES THIS HURT THEM WITH ANOTHER TRIAL STILL PENDING WITH THEIR NAME BEING DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD? I THINK THAT MUST BE A NEGATIVE TO SOME DEGREE. I THINK THEY'RE TRYING VERY HARD TO TURN THE NEGATIVE INTO A POSITIVE BY, FOR EXAMPLE, THEM APPOINTING THE VERY SENIOR GOVERNANCE IN THE COMPANY ABOUT A YEAR AGO NOW I SUPPOSE. SO THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST OF IT. BUT UNTIL THAT CLOUD IS LIFTED I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. HOWEVER UNDERNEATH FUNDAMENTALLY ALL OF THE BUSINESSES THAT TYCO RUNS ARE IN GOOD SHAPE. THE SHARE PRICE IS STILL DOWN FROM WHAT IT WAS AT THE HEIGHT OF KOZLOWSKI'S REIGN BUT THAT WAS PROBABLY INFLATED. Reporter: FINALLY AS WE LOOK AT THIS CASE, WHAT LESSON HAVE WE LEARNED FROM THIS MISTRIAL, PROFESSOR SCHERR? I THINK THE WALL STREET JOURNAL AND THE NEW YORK POST ARE GOING TO BE A LOT MORE CAREFUL ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THEY DID IN THIS TRIAL. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE UNFAIR TO CONDEMN THE MEDIA AS A WHOLE BECAUSE IT WAS JUST THE WALL STREET JOURNAL AND THE NEW YORK POST, ODD BEDFELLOWS I MAY ADD. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL ABOUT SOME OF THE RISKS THEY TAKE IN THE FUTURE. Reporter: PROFESSOR FREEAR? I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT VERY MUCH. IT SEEMS UNFORTUNATE AND PROBABLY THE LAW OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES KICKED IN. Reporter: STAY TUNED FOR ROUND 2. PROFESSORS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US. MY PLEASURE. |
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While all eyes were on the presidential primary, another political movement was gaining steam in the Granite State. Libertarians and other advocates of small government chose New Hampshire for their Free State project. They hope to convince 20-thousand activists to move to the state and work for "less" government. Julie Donnelly spoke to one of the first couples to make the move. |
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Reporter: ALL EYES WERE ON THE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY, ANOTHER POLITICAL MOVEMENT WAS GAINING STEAM IN THE GRANITE STATE. LIBERTARIANS AND OTHER ADVOCATES OF SMALL GOVERNMENT CHOSE NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR THEIR FREE STATE PROJECT. THEY HOPE TO CONVINCE 20,000 ACTIVISTS TO MOVE TO THE STATE AND WORK FOR LESS GOVERNMENT. JULIE DONNELLY SPOKE TO ONE OF THE FIRST COUPLES TO MAKE THE MOVE. CALVIN PRATT FIRST LEARNED ABOUT THE FREE STATE PROJECT ON THE INTERNET TWO YEARS AGO. THIS PAST OCTOBER THE GROUP CHOSE NEW HAMPSHIRE AS ITS POLITICAL LABORATORY. SOON AFTER, THE PRATTS MOVED FROM NEW JERSEY TO GOFF TOWN. THEY SAY THE STATE IS THE PERFECT PLACE FOR AN EXPERIMENT IN SMALLER GOVERNMENT. DOESN'T NEW HAMPSHIRE ALREADY HAVE SMALL GOVERNMENT? THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT ATTRACTIVE. BECAUSE IF WE TRIED THAT KIND OF A PROJECT ANY PLACE ELSE, WE WOULD HAVE TO BE GOING AGAINST THE ENTRENCHED INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE THAT KIND OF A CHANGE. HERE'S THERE'S LESS RESISTANCE TO IT AND THERE'S MORE OF A CHANCE WE'LL SUCCEED. Reporter: WHAT KINDS OF ACTIVITIES WILL YOU BE INVOLVED IN TO TRY TO BRING THIS ABOUT? WE'LL BE WORKING PRETTY MUCH WITHIN THE POLITICAL SYSTEM AS IT EXISTS NOW. MY FOCUS IS GOING TO BE ON CONCORD AND THE STATE LEVEL GOVERNMENT. SOME PEOPLE WILL TRY TO CHANGE LOCAL GOVERNMENT SUCH AS THE FREE TOWN PROJECT EFFORT TO WORK AT THAT LEVEL. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE INTEREST ODD THE NATIONAL LEVEL BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ANY TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE. BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ELECT A COUPLE OF SENATORS AND THE REPRESENTATIVE TO SEND TO WASHINGTON TO HAVE OUR VOICE OUT THERE ALONG WITH REPRESENTATIVE RON PAUL FROM TEXAS WHO REPRESENTS US PRETTY WELL RIGHT NOW. EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT FROM TEXAS HE STILL SPEAKS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN SMALL TRANSPARENT GOVERNMENT WHO ARE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WHICH IS WHAT WE BELIEVE IN. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A CHANCE OF SHOWING ALTERNATIVE WAYS DEALING WITH SOCIAL ISSUES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A LOT OF MEMBERS ARE INTERESTED IN IS ALTERNATE EDUCATION WHETHER HOME SCHOOLING OR CHARTER SCHOOLS. THAT HASN'T PASSED HERE TO THE POINT WE LIKE WITH THE VOUCHER SYSTEM IN NEW HAMPSHIRE BUT WE ONE WAY WE MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER PUTTING TOGETHER A SCHOLARSHIP FUND SO THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TRY IT AND DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO WILL HAVE AN OPTION TO DO IT AS OPPOSED TO WAITING FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO COME THROUGH. Reporter: IF THE GOVERNMENT ISN'T GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN SOCIAL ISSUES WHAT ORGANIZATION SHOULD BE? SHOULD CHURCHS? THAT'S ONE SUPPORT FOR IT. ALMOST ANY NON-GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY, CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS, NONPROFITS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, WE WANT TO RETURN TO THE VOLUNTARY MODEL. Reporter: SO WHAT WOULD BE A PROPER ROLE FOR STATE GOVERNMENT? THE STATE GOVERNMENT'S PRIMARY JOB IS TO ADMINISTER ITSELF AND ALSO TO POLICE THE COURTS AND WHATEVER MILITARY SERVICES, TO PROTECT THE LIFE, LIBERTY AND PROPERTY OF THE CITIZENS. WE HAVE A WONDERFUL CONSTITUTION IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. I THINK IF PEOPLE GO BACK AND REALLY LOOK AT WHAT GOVERNMENT POWERS WERE DELINEATED THERE, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT IDEA. Reporter: WELL, WHAT ABOUT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY? DO YOU EVER GO TO THE PUBLIC LIBRARY? ALL THE TIME. Reporter: SO IS THAT PERHAPS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE MAINTAINED AS SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT DOES? NOT NECESSARILY. THE FIRST LIBRARIES THAT WE HAD, IN FACT, COMING FROM NEW JERSEY WE WERE FAMILIAR WITH PHILADELPHIA AND BENJAMIN FRANKLIN AND THE LIBRARY SFPL THAT THEY SET UP. THOSE BOOKS WERE DONATED AND MAINTAINED THROUGH SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE AND THROUGH CHARITABLE DONATIONS. THERE'S REALLY NO REASON WHY THAT CAN'T BE DONE NOW. IN FACT A SMALL SUBSCRIPTION PRICE FOR ACCESS TO THOSE KINDS OF BOOKS KIND OF MAKES SENSE IN A WAY. AND AGAIN IF PEOPLE ARE UNABLE ECONOMICALLY TO CONTRIBUTE, THEN OF COURSE YOU HAVE DONORS WHO STEP IN AND SAY, WELL, WE HAVE SO MANY SUBSCRIPTIONS THAT WE'RE WILLING TO DONATE TO NEEDY CHILDREN, FOR INSTANCE, SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE LIBRARY. Reporter: YOU TALK ABOUT DONORS AND CHARITIES AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS VIEW OF THE WORLD WOULD NECESSITATE A LOT OF VOLUNTEERISM FROM EVERYBODY. DO YOU SEE THAT AS REALISTIC? YES. IN FACT, IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE OVER THE PAST AND WHAT HAPPENS WHAT HAPPENED AS FAR AS INCREMENTAL BUREAUCRATIC CREEP WAS INVOLVED, IT ESSENTIALLY PUSHED OUT. TAKE FOR INSTANCE, SOCIAL SECURITY. YOU CAN EITHER BE IN A FRATERNAL ORGANIZATION WHICH SOME SORT OF SECURITY IS PROVIDED THROUGH YOUR MEMBERSHIP OR YOU CAN BE FORCED BY IN THIS CASE BY LAWS THAT WERE PASSED THAT SAID YOU HAD TO BE IN THIS NATIONAL SYSTEM. IF YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T NOT TAKE THE COURSE, OF COURSE, BECAUSE THERE ARE LAWS THAT SAYS THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE TAKEN FROM YOU ANYWAY SO WHAT DO YOU GIVE UP? YOU GIVE UP THE VOLUNTARY BECAUSE YOU CAN GIVE THAT UP. IF THERE WERE NO COERCION, SAY, FOR INSTANCE SOCIAL SECURITY FROM THE BEGINNING HAD BEEN MADE VOLUNTARY, WOULD THAT PROGRAM STILL BE AROUND NOW OR WOULD PEOPLE STILL HAVE THEIR FRATERNAL ORGANIZATIONS AND THEIR FRIENDLY SOCIETIES STILL IN EXISTENCE TO COMPETE WITH THAT VIEW? PROBABLY A GOOD EXAMPLE TO THAT IF YOU STOP AND THINK WE'VE GOTTEN IN THE MIND SET OF SAYING WE DON'T HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE DO IT BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO DO IT. WHEN FUNCTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PHASED OUT MAYBE BECAUSE OF BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS, TAKE A LOOK AT HOW GROUPS HAVE STEPPED UP AND TRIED TO SAVE THINGS THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO THEM. WHETHER IT WAS FUNDING A SCHOOL THAT MAYBE A PARISH SCHOOL THAT THE CHURCH WOULDN'T SUPPORT ANYMORE, WHETHER IT WERE SERVICES THAT WERE CUT FROM SCHOOL BUDGET. WHEN IT MATTERS TO PEOPLE THEY STEP UP AND DO IT. LOOK AT 9/11. THEY STEPPED FORWARD IN NEW JERSEY EMERGENCIES AND THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME. ANY TIME THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, PEOPLE ARE THERE AND THEY STEP FORWARD. Reporter: IF THIS PROJECT SUCCEEDS, IF 20,000 PEOPLE MOVE HERE WHO SHARE YOUR VIEWS, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? WELL, WE STILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE WE'RE NOT AGGRESSIVE, WE BELIEVE IN PERSUASION RATHER THAN FORCE. AS THE MEANS OF ACCOMPLISHING CHANGE. SO WE'VE GOT TO CHANGE A LOT OF MINDS BASICALLY. BUT WE'LL HAVE A MUCH STRONGER VOICE THAN WE HAVE ANY PLACE ELSE IN THE UNITED STATES ALTHOUGH THERE'S PROBABLY ENOUGH OF US OUT THERE TO ACTUALLY INFLUENCE AN ELECTION. FOR INSTANCE, IN THE LAST ELECTION IN 2000, IF WE HAD CONCENTRATED ALL THE MEMBERSHIP THAT WAS SPREAD ACROSS THE UNITED STATES IN JUST ONE STATE, WE CAN HAVE ELECTED A SENATOR AND POSSIBLY A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THAT STATE. WE HAD THE VOTES BUT THEY WERE SCATTERED ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CREATING A CRITICAL MASS AND WE'LL HAVE THE VOICE AND WE'LL HAVE THE EXPOSURE. WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE AND CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT. LIKE I SAID HERE WE'VE ALREADY GOT A GOOD START BECAUSE THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PEOPLE FOR THE MOST PART GET IT. THE REPRESENTATIVE IN CONCORD A LOT OF THEM THEY ALREADY GET IT. THEY UNDERSTAND. I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE THAT HARD A JOB OF PERSUADING. THAT'S WHERE THE LAB IDEA COMES IN. IF WE GET ENOUGH PEOPLE HERE AND WE HAVE A CHANCE TO TRY THIS, IT'S TIME TO SEE IF WE CAN REALLY WALK THE WALK. IF WE HAVE A CHANCE TO DO IT AND IT DOESN'T WORK, THAT KIND OF. OUR THEORY. IF WE DO IT AND IT WORKS WELL IT GIVES US CREDIBILITY. MAYBE WE CAN SHOW AN ALTERNATIVE. SOME OTHER STATES CAN SAY IT SOUNDED CRAZY BUT LOOK AT WHAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED OF. WE WANT TO TRY SOME SORT OF THAT IN OUR STATE. THAT WOULD BE THE IDEAL. THERE IS A DIFFERENT WAY TO DO THINGS AND PEOPLE START PICKING UP ON THAT. Reporter: WHETHER THE PROJECT SUCCEEDS OR NOT, THE PRATTS PLAN TO STAY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. GOVERNMENT IS VERY ACCESSIBLE HERE. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU CAN JUST PICK UP PHONE AND CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE AND HAVE A KFERLGS WITH HIM AND EXPLAIN YOUR CONCERNS. THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED IN THE NINE STATES WE'VE LIVED IN SO FAR. SO IT'S REALLY REFRESHING TO BE HERE. Reporter: FOR NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK I'M JULIE DONNELLY. |
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The state of New Hampshire has a new web page. It provides a direct link to CanadaDrugs.com. On Monday, Governor Benson demonstrated to reporters how the site can be used to order prescription drugs on-line from Canada. Besides the link to the Canadian pharmacy, there's information about drug safety and costs. Like three other states, Governor Bensons says, New Hampshire has been forced to act due to the high costs of prescription drugs. |
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New Hampshire's prescription drug web page can be found by going to www.nh.gov/governor |
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We'll be talking with the Governor about the prescription drug plan and more later this week. If you have a question for Mr. Benson, send us an email at nhoutlook@nhptv.org. We'll do our best to include your question in our interview. It will air Thursday night. |
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On the next New Hampshire Outlook - Concerns about the future of the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard. We'll learn how the Pentagon makes base closure decisions and see what's at stake if Portsmouth makes the list. |
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We'll see you next time. Thanks for watching. |
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Tonight on New Hampshire Outlook. Concerns about the future of the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard. Join us tonight at 10:00 only on New Hampshire Outlook. |
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK Air Date/Time: 04/05/04 22:00 HOST: Beth Carroll Length: 12:30 minutes In this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly news magazine, The Tyco Mistrial. What went wrong -- and, who benefits.The story and analysis coming up. Plus, When all eyes were on the Presidential primary, another vote was taken choosing New Hampshire as the first in the nation. free state. We'll explain. And later, Governor Craig Benson unveils the state's newest website. It provides a direct link to prescription drugs from Canada. When The TYCO trial ended in a mistrial on Friday -- the courtroom was stunned. Jurors said they were minutes away from reaching a verdict. They had just survived a week in which the trial had descended into a 3-ring circus. But, a threatening letter to Juror #4 made it impossible for the judge not to react. In the aftermath of the mistrial, jurors are speaking-out, lawyers are weighing-in and the press is under fire. Joining us to discuss the legal, business and ethical issues raised in the case are: Albert "Buzz" Scherr, a law professor at Franklin Pierce Law Center and John Freear, Professor of Accounting and Finance at the University of New Hampshire's Whittemore School of Business and Economics. PRODUCER/REPORTER: NAME OF PARTICIPANTS:Sketches by:\Dale Dyer, Gregory Sutton\Juro, From: "Paula Zahn Now", Sketches by:\Dale Dyer, Charles Stillman\Swartz's Attorney, Albert "Buzz" Scherr\Professor, Franklin Pierce Law Center,John Freear\Professor,UNH Whittemore School of Business and Economics |
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK Air Date/Time: 04/05/04 22:00 HOST: Beth Carroll Length: 08:00 minutes In this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly news magazine, The Tyco Mistrial. What went wrong -- and, who benefits.The story and analysis coming up. Plus, When all eyes were on the Presidential primary, another vote was taken choosing New Hampshire as the first in the nation. free state. We'll explain. And later, Governor Craig Benson unveils the state's newest website. It provides a direct link to prescription drugs from Canada. While all eyes were on the presidential primary, another political movement was gaining steam in the Granite State. Libertarians and other advocates of small government chose New Hampshire for their Free State project. They hope to convince 20-thousand activists to move to the state and work for "less" government. Julie Donnelly spoke to one of the first couples to make the move. PRODUCER/REPORTER: NAME OF PARTICIPANTS:Calvin Pratt\Free Stater, Karen Pratt\Free Stater |
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK Air Date/Time: 04/05/04 22:00 HOST: Beth Carroll Length: 01:00 minutes In this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly news magazine, The Tyco Mistrial. What went wrong -- and, who benefits.The story and analysis coming up. Plus, When all eyes were on the Presidential primary, another vote was taken choosing New Hampshire as the first in the nation. free state. We'll explain. And later, Governor Craig Benson unveils the state's newest website. It provides a direct link to prescription drugs from Canada. The state of New Hampshire has a new web page. It provides a direct link to CanadaDrugs.com. On Monday, Governor Benson demonstrated to reporters how the site can be used to order prescription drugs on-line from Canada. Besides the link to the Canadian pharmacy, there's information about drug safety and costs. Like three other states, Governor Bensons says, New Hampshire has been forced to act due to the high costs of prescription drugs. PRODUCER/REPORTER: NAME OF PARTICIPANTS: Craig Benson\NH Governor |
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK Air Date/Time: 04/05/04 22:00 HOST: Beth Carroll Length: 01:00 minutes In this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly news magazine, The Tyco Mistrial. What went wrong -- and, who benefits.The story and analysis coming up. Plus, When all eyes were on the Presidential primary, another vote was taken choosing New Hampshire as the first in the nation. free state. We'll explain. And later, Governor Craig Benson unveils the state's newest website. It provides a direct link to prescription drugs from Canada. The state of New Hampshire has a new web page. It provides a direct link to CanadaDrugs.com. On Monday, Governor Benson demonstrated to reporters how the site can be used to order prescription drugs on-line from Canada. Besides the link to the Canadian pharmacy, there's information about drug safety and costs. Like three other states, Governor Bensons says, New Hampshire has been forced to act due to the high costs of prescription drugs. PRODUCER/REPORTER: NAME OF PARTICIPANTS: Craig Benson\NH Governor |
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